The Y Chromosome that Survived the Flood, part III 8/23/11

Science and Noah’s Flood

In the previous articles of the Y-chromosome that survived the Flood, Part I and Part II, we have seen what the Bible and World cultures have said respectively regarding the universality of Noah’s flood. In section III we will see what science has to say about the possibility of Noah’s flood being a world wide event. Should we look at the formation of the Y-chromosome haplogroups from “A” to “T” from the beginning of Creation? Or did all Y-Haplogroups from “A” to “T” formed from Noah after a universal flood? About 5,000 years ago… After the deluge something changed in our dimension, that we can not measure time accurately, rending true the Einstein theory that time is relative, agreeing with Moses and Peter that one day is like a thousand years

Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it is past, And like a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day

So before the flood we can not say accurately how much time has passed by…

Did Noah’s flood destroy all the descendants of Adam except eight people in Noah’s Arch?

Mount Ararat isTurkey’s highest peak at 16,854 feet tall, and the Bible states that it was covered with water at least 15 cubit=22.5 feet above the top, is it possible that the rest of Europe, Asia, Africa and America were not also flooded?

 Genesis 7:19-20 –19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered 20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.

Genesis 8:4 -Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat.

Mounts Ararat: 16,854 Feet high/5280 feet= 3.19 miles high

198 million sq miles is the surface area of earth.

Then how much water do we need to cover the whole earth + Mount Ararat?

—  The total volume of water on Earth is about 1.4 billion cubic kilometers  www.space.com, USGS.gov

Earth

Earth Radio                = ——– From center to inside of loop.

Mount Ararat Radio = ————-From Center to outside of loop.

—  Volume of a sphere = 4/3 π r3 where r=radius

—  Radius of Earth = 6,378.15 Kilometers

—  Height of Mt. Ararat = 5.14 Kilometers (16,854 ft)

—  The volume of water needed to cover Earth to the height of Mt. Ararat is approximately the difference in volume of a sphere needed to encompass Mt. Ararat and the volume of a sphere the size of the Earth.

—  Volume of  a sphere encompassing the Earth at sea level
= 4/3 (3.14)(6,378.15 KM)3 = 1,086,825,918,019 KM3

—  Volume of a sphere encompassing Mt. Ararat
= 4/3 (3.14) (6,378.15 + 5.14 KM)3 = 1,088,935,385,790 KM3

—  The Difference = 2,109,467,767.43 KM3

—  Notice that this is less than 1.5 TIMES the amount of water presently on Earth.

What about Mount Everest at 29,029 feet high, which is the highest peak on earth and according to Genesis, all the mountains peaks were covered.

Well, sea shell fossils found on Mt. Everest prove that it was once covered by water.

Is there any evidence in science that there was/is water in the Deep of the earth, to substantiate that the fountains of the earth broke and this contributed to the waters of The Universal Flood at the time of Noah?

Genesis 7:11 NKJV In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened

I.                 Deep waters – 1992

—  “The Hidden Shore” by Raymond Jeanloz, The Sciences January/February 1993; “Water in the Earth’s Upper Mantle” by Alan Bruce Thompson, Nature, vol 358, 23 July 1992

—  “DEEP inside the Earth, the pressure is excruciating. Squeezed into strange shapes and forms, the rocks are so hot that they crawl like super-thick treacle. It is an inferno worthy of Dante, but it also contains something surprising. What’s the last thing you would expect to find in this hellish environment? Water. Vast amounts of the stuff. In fact, more than 400 kilometers inside the Earth there may be enough water to replace the surface oceans more than ten times.

—  But this water is not a series of immense seas. Rather, it is scattered in droplets, some as small as a single molecule, with most trapped inside crystal lattices of rare minerals that only form under intense pressures.”

“How much there is down there is still fiercely debated. But these inner “oceans” could help to explain long-standing puzzles about Earth’s formation, the causes of deep earthquakes hundreds of kilometers inside the Earth, and why massive volcanic outbursts suddenly flood hundreds of thousands of square kilometers with lava. They may even give a glimpse of what the future holds for the Earth’s climate and if we might ever be drowned from below.”

II.              Deep waters – 2003

—  Science 6 June 2003:
Vol. 300 no. 5625 pp. 1556-1558
DOI: 10.1126/science.1083636

—  “Seismic Evidence for Water Deep in Earth’s Upper Mantle.”

—  “Water in the deep upper mantle can influence the properties of seismic discontinuities in the mantle transition zone. Observations of converted seismic waves provide evidence of a 20- to 35-kilometer-thick discontinuity near a depth of 410 kilometers, most likely explained by as much as 700 parts per million of water by weight.”

III.          DEEP waters – 2007

3-D model shows big body of water in Earth’s mantle.      http://www.physorg.com/news90171847.html

“A seismologist at Washington University in St. Louis has made the first 3-D model of seismic wave damping — diminishing — deep in the Earth’s mantle and has revealed the existence of an underground water reservoir at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean. It is the first evidence for water existing in the Earth’s deep mantle.  February 8, 2007”

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So, the fallen angels tried to corrupt the seed of Adam and Eve, so the Messiah could not come. The Lord sends the flood and only one type of human Y-chromosome is left on earth, that one of Noah and his three sons.

After examining the evidence presented in the Bible, world Cultures and Science, we conclude that Noah’s Y- Chromosome is the sole human Y-Chromosome survivor.

Was Noah’s Y-Chromosome Haplogroup C? or E? or J?

All other Haplogroup types of Y-chromosomes on earth today had to come from Noah!

Geneticists tells us that present Y-chromosome haplogroup of men from A to T came from Africa and that the genetic markers mutation is so slow that we find the first one 60,000 years ago.

Rather, humanity in 2011 seem to have come from the Middle East not Africa, and the genetic markers mutation rate occurs much more frequently to have the Y chromosome haplogroups A to T formed only in the last 5,000 years, from the Y-chromosome of Noah and his three sons.

The seven other Y-haplogroups that we find today among the House of Judah may represent the hidden Ephraimites that e-migrated to Judah during the Kingdom of Hezekiah, assimilated into the house of Judah and forgot through the centuries the tribes that they came from, they forgot that they were Ephraimites…

European Jews
Region/Haplogroup I R1a R1b G J2 J1 E T L Q Others
Ashkenazi Jews 4 10 9 9.5 19 19 20.5 2 0.5 5 1.5
Sephardic Jews 1 5 13 15 25 22 9 6 0 2 2

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

The seven other Y-haplogroups that we find today among the House of Judah may represent the hidden Ephraimites that immigrated to Judah during the Kingdom of Hezekiah, assimilated into the house of Judah and forgot through the centuries the tribes that they came from, they forgot that they were Ephraimites… 2Chronicles 30:11-19

We need to reshuffle the Y-chromosome DNA haplogroups and see the new classification under the lens of the Word of YHVH, the Bible, World Cultures and Science. So to be able to find the second witness as we try to identify the twelve tribes of Israel.

Psalm 90:17 And let the beauty of the Lord our God be upon us, And establish the work of our hands for us; Yes, establish the work of our hands.

Brachot Ahavta Yeshua (Blessings in the love of Yeshua)

ברחות אהבת ישוא

Alex C. Perdomo MD and Georgina Chan Perdomo MD

www.eztyoseph.org

6 Responses to The Y Chromosome that Survived the Flood, part III 8/23/11

  1. reelgame says:

    I enjoyed this subject tremendously based on the general cultural and religious belief that the flood was a regional event and not what the bible described very clear that it was a universal event leaving Noah and his 3 sons as the stem Y-chromosome that will initiate once again the process of identifying the tribes. Please continue the GOOD work. We need more brothers and sisters commenting.
    Blessings in Yeshua’s name.

    • Georgina says:

      Thank you for your input! We all benefit from knowing what the rest of the remnant is thinking. We will answer all e-mails in time.
      If anyone wants to leave their thoughts, then you need to click in logging, then click on “Register”, then they will send you your personal password to your e-mail so you can leave a reply…Hope to hear from many of you,
      Shalom, Georgina

  2. paulvc says:

    Quote from article: “The Lord sends the flood and only one type of human Y-chromosome is left on earth, that one of Noah and his three sons.”
    My question is: Has any Y-chromosome ever been found from people that we know lived before the flood? Y-chromosome that is found in people that lived before the flood but no longer present in living humans? I mean, if these haplogroups really go back 60,000 years, wouldn’t all, except for one, cease to exist after the flood? I can see how there would be four examples of mtDNA present in Noah’s wife and three daughters -in-law. But for Y it should have been reduced to one type. Is this correct or am I not understanding how this works?

    • Georgina says:

      All humans today will have genes of people that lived before the flood, since Noach’s genes came from those people and we come from Noach. But Y-haplogroups, those designated letters from A to T that we see today if they formed before the flood they all disappeared with the flood. Then All Y-haplogroups that we find today, were formed after the flood, from Noach, since everyone else on earth died during the Universal Diluvium.
      I hope this helps,
      Georgina

  3. marcus says:

    The Cohen modality is found in J1. Therefore all J haplotypes must be Levitical. The next highest haplotype is E1b1b1, which it would be logical to assume is the Judah haplotype.

    This haplotype is very prominent in North Africa and features with the Berbers. The Berbers claim to be Jews incidentally.

    The G2 haplotype is very densely found in the Pushtan tribe. The Pushtan tribe claims Benjamite ancestry. Curiously the Alpine mummy, Otzi the Iceman, was a G2 haplotype; he was also a left-hander.

    R1a and R1b seem to be the House of Israel. Why it is only 2 haplotypes and not 10, seems curious, but I guess this just reflects Ephraim and Mannessah.

    So, what other issues do the haplotypes throw up? Well, I guess Q1 is either the Edomite haplotype. (Edom merged into Judah around 120BC). For instance, Q1 was widespread through the Americas prior to the European colonization. Curious then that they were ‘red’ Indians. (Edom meaning ‘red’)

    • Georgina says:

      Shalom Marcus!
      Thanks for your commentaries…Genetic Genealogy is still in its birth stages and growing, changing every day. I agree that the genetic mutation rate of the SNPs have not been clarified yet and it is one of the reasons why the science world assumes that only one type of Y-haplogroup could be descendants of Ya’acov. I do not agree with that theory and understand a lot more work needs to be done in the field to continue to shed light into the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel…For one, we should be posting soon about the tribes of Issachar and Zebulun among Etz Yoseph members, with a commentary on the article published in Nature Communications, on December 17, 2013: “Phylogenic applications of whole Y-Chromosome Sequences and the Near Eastern Origin of Ashkenazi Levites.”
      Look it up :)
      Georgina

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