The Y Chromosome that Survived the Flood, part 2

We saw in the first part of “The Y chromosome that survived the flood” the facts in the Bible that supports a world wide flood (see in archives: “The Y chromosome that Survived the Flood, part 1”). We also read that genealogy geneticists that study the ancestors of the human Y-chromosome have a theory that traces back all humanity to a common male ancestor in Africa that lived 60,000 years ago, whom they call Adam. As time passes by, Adam’s descendants proceed to leave the African continent and spread to the Middle East, South Asia, Australia, Europe, North East Asia and America. This theory appears to be flawed when we analyze the facts from three different points of view:

1)      The Bible

2)      World Cultures

3)      Science

Lets take a look together at the legends that are told in different cultures all over the World and see if there is the common belief that at one point in time there was a global flood.

Bible scholar Dr. John MacArthur states that there are over 240 stories about a world wide flood. We have chosen one from each continent to corroborate that in every part of the earth planet, men culture holds stories of a wide world flood.

They all have in common certain characteristics that we may find a few or all in common with the Bible account of Noah’s Flood.

  • 1. God is upset with His Creation and will destroy it.
  • 2. Humans have become very evil.
  • 3. A righteous man is warned by God.
  • 4. He builds a boat
  • 5. The man’s family and animals go in the boat.
  • 6. Rains and or deep of the earth shattered. the sea calmed and the whirlwind and flood stopped. All day long there was quiet. All humans had turned to clay, submerged underwater the planet.
  • 7. A mountain is the place where the boat docked. He checked if the flood has subsided by releasing birds, after leaving the ark he made a sacrifice to God in thanksgiving that he and his family survived the flood, and the survivors are instructed to multiple and settle all of the planet earth.

We will look at a few of the world cultures “myths” about the flood in different continents of planet earth; reasoning that most likely all these myths arise from a common ancestor that lived the flood many years ago… He probably told the story to his children and then to the grandchildren and so on; and as the people migrated settling the whole earth, they took the stories with them. The story is a little different, just like when we play the game broken telephone and we whisper a phrase to our neighbors’ ears, and this one in turn whispers it to his neighbor, and so on…at the end of the line, the story seems a little different but keeps some of the elements  of the original phrase.

1)      Sumerian – The Epic of Gilgamesh:

Gilgamesh Flood myth section, (first 2/3 of Tablet XI)

Lines 1-203, Tablet XI

  1. The “great gods” Anu, Enlil, Ninurta, Ennugi, and Ea were sworn to secrecy about their plan to cause the flood.
  2. The sea calmed and the whirlwind and flood stopped. All day long there was quiet. All humans had turned to clay. The boat lodged firmly on mount Nimush which held the boat for several days, allowing no swaying.
  1. But the god Ea (= Sumerian god Enki) repeated the plan to Utnapishtim through a reed wall in a reed house.
  2. Ea commanded Utnapishtim to demolish his house and build a boat, regardless of the cost, to keep living beings alive.
  3. The thunder god Adad rumbled in the cloud and storm gods Shullar and Hanish went over mountains and land.
  4. The Annunnaki gods lit up the land with their lightning.
  5. There was stunned shock at Adad’s deeds which turned everything to blackness. The land was shattered like a pot.
  1. On the seventh day he released a dove which flew away, but came back to him. He released a swallow, but it also came back to him.
  2. He released a raven which was able to eat and scratch, and did not circle back to the boat.
  3.  He sacrificed a sheep and offered incense at a mountainous ziggurat where he placed 14 sacrificial vessels and poured reeds, cedar, and myrtle into the fire. “Ye gods, as surely as I shall not forget this lapis lazuli [amulet] around my neck, I shall be mindful of these days and never forget them! The gods may come to the sacrificial offering. But Enlil may not come, because he brought about the flood and annihilated my people without considering [the consequences].”When Enlil arrived, he saw the boat and became furious at the Igigi gods. He said “Where did a living being escape? No man was to survive the annihilation!”

 

Material clay

15.24 cm (6.00 in)  x 13.33 cm (5.25 in)  x 3.17 cm (1.25 in)

Writing cuneiform .Created 7th century BC .Period/culture Neo-Assyrian

Discovered Kouyunjik  – Present location Room 55, British Museum, London

The Gilgamesh epic may be the oldest story that is written on earth: 2750 and 2500 BCE. Some have said that because it is older that when the account of Genesis was written by Moses in about 1500 BCE, then it must mean that Moses copied the Gilgamesh epic and Noah’s flood never happened. They do not realize that even though Moses inscribe it in 1,500 BCE, that Moses was retelling in the book of Genesis events that happened a long time ago before Moses wrote it down. A time when even the tablets of the Gilgamesh epic did not even existed.

But, when we go and compare the stories of a myriad of world cultures then we will have to assume that the Chinese’s writings that are dated as 1,200 BCE and every other story of the flood from all corners of earth are also a copy of Gilgamesh…How did they hear the story of Gilgamesh from China, Africa, Europe America??? …Are they all confabulating with Gilgamesh that a world flood existed?

Why would people continue to tell the story of the universal flood all over the earth they populated, generation after generation if there was not true in it? It makes more sense that there was a man that lived the flood way before the Gilgamesh epic was written and he told the story to his descendants that told it to its descendants as they spread through the earth…Just like Genesis said that happened.

2)      The Chinese Flood Epic (Walls, Jan & Walls, Yvonne. Classical Chinese Myths, Joint Publishing Co., Hongkong, 1984.) Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak.

China flood Epic The Supreme Sovereign ordered the water god Gong Gong to create a flood as punishment and warning for human misbehavior. Gong Gong extended the flood for 22 years, and people had to live in high mountain caves and in trees, fighting with wild animals for scarce resources. Unable to persuade the Supreme Sovereign to stop the flood, and told by an owl and a turkey about _Xirang_ or Growing Soil, the supernatural hero Gun stole Growing Soil from heaven to dam the waters. Before Gun was finished, however, the Supreme Sovereign sent the fire god Zhu Rong to execute him for his theft. The Growing Soil was taken back to heaven, and the floods continued. However, Gun’s body didn’t decay, and when it was cut apart three years later, his son Yu emerged in the form of a horned dragon. Gun’s body also transformed into a dragon at that time and thenceforth lived quietly in the deeps. The Supreme Sovereign was fearful of Yu’s power, so he cooperated and gave Yu the Growing Soil and the use of the dragon Ying. Yu led other gods to drive away Gong Gong, distributed the Growing Soil to remove most of the flood, and led the people to fashion rivers from Ying’s tracks and thus channel the remaining floodwaters to the sea. [Walls, pp. 94-100]

Not only does the Chinese flood epic explains that the flood was a punishment to human misbehavior but, when the Chinese start writing their alphabet 1200 BCE , they write for the word boat three characters that reflects Noah’s ark with eight people being saved…look:

Vessel

Mouth 

Eight

 

Just count how many people are in Noah’s Ark:

Genesis 7:13 tells us:  In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark.” 

3)      The Thailand Flood Epic:  Wyatt, David K., Thailand: A Short History, New Haven (Yale University Press), 2003. . ISBN 0-300-08475-7

 

“According to the myth of Khun Borom, commonly related among the Lao, people in ancient times were wicked and crude. A great deity destroyed them with a flood, leaving only three worthy chiefs who were preserved in heaven to be the founders and guides for a new race of people. The deity sent the three chiefs back to the earth with a buffalo to help them till the land. The chiefs and the buffalo arrived in the land of Muang Then (believed to be present-day Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam). Once the land had been prepared for rice cultivation, the buffalo died and a gourd vine grew from his nostril. From the gourds on the vine, the new human race emerged—relatively dark-skinned aboriginal peoples emerging from gourds cut open with a hot poker, and the lighter skinned Lao emerging from cuts made with a chisel”

4)      The Australian Flood Epic; Aborigines in subservience. [Kolig, pp. 242-245] Kolig, Erich, 1980. “Noah’s Ark Revisited: On the Myth-Land Connection in Traditional Australian Aboriginal Thought”, in Dundes. (Dundes, Alan (ed.) The Flood Myth, University of California Press, Berkeley and London, 1988.)

 

“During the Dreamtime flood, woramba, the Ark Gumana carrying Noah, Aborigines, and animals, drifted south and came to rest in the flood plain of Djilinbadu (about 70 km south of Noonkanbah Station, just south of the Barbwire Range and east of the Worral Range), where it can still be seen today. The white man’s claim that it landed in the Middle East was a lie to keep”

5)      The Native American Indians Flood Epic. Cherokee Indians of Tennessee. Gaster, Theodor H. Myth, Legend, and Custom in the Old Testament, Harper & Row, New York, 1969. (Most of the flood stories in this work are taken from Frazer, 1919.)

 

“Cherokee (Great Lakes area; eastern Tennessee): Day after day, a dog stood at the river bank and howled piteously. Rebuked by his master, the dog said a flood was coming, and he must build and provision a boat. Furthermore, the dog said, he must throw him, the dog, into the water. For a sign that he spoke the truth, the dog showed the back of his neck, which was raw and bare with flesh and bone showing. The man followed directions, and he and his family survived; from them, the present population is descended. [Gaster, pp. 116-117]”

 

6)      The South America Flood Epic. Indians Arawak Guyana/Venezuela. Gaster, Theodor H. Myth, Legend, and Custom in the Old Testament, Harper & Row, New York, 1969. (Most of the flood stories in this work are taken from Frazer, 1919.)


Arawak (Guyana): Since its creation, the world has been destroyed twice, once by fire and once by flood, by the great god Aiomun Kondi because of the wickedness of mankind. The pious and wise chief Marerewana was informed of the coming of the flood and saved himself and his family in a large canoe. He tied the canoe to a tree with a long cable of bushrope to prevent drifting too far from his old home. [Gaster, p. 126]

7)      The Africa Flood Epic–  Gaster, Theodor H. Myth, Legend, and Custom in the Old Testament, Harper & Row, New York, 1969. (Most of the flood stories in this work are taken from Frazer, 1919.)

 

Africa. Southwest Tanzania (Rukwa Region): The rivers began flooding. God told two men to go into a ship, taking with them all sorts of seed and animals. The flood rose, covering the mountains. Later, to check whether the waters had dried up, the man sent out a dove, and it came back to the ship. He waited and sent out a hawk, which did not return because the waters had dried. The men then disembarked with the animals and seeds. [Gaster, pp. 120-121]

8)      The European Flood Epic/ Greece. Frazer, Sir James G. Folk-Lore in the Old Testament, vol. 1, Macmillan & Co., London, 1919.

“The first race of people was completely destroyed because they were exceedingly wicked. The fountains of the deep opened, the rain fell in torrents, and the rivers and seas rose to cover the earth, killing all of them. Deucalion survived due to his prudence and piety and linked the first and second race of men. Onto a great ark he loaded his wives and children and all animals. The animals came to him, and by God’s help, remained friendly for the duration of the flood. The flood waters escaped down a chasm opened in Hierapolis. [Frazer, pp. 153-154]”

So the legends of people from every single world culture speak of a universal flood. It is not logical to think that each of them separated by such a distance in space and time confabulated to “make up” a world wide flood, but rather that at one point in time a Universal flood existed, wiping all human Y chromosomes from earth except Noah and his three sons: Shem, Japheth and Ham.

The theory that the Y chromosomes that are alive today come from way back Adam and all his descendant appear to have received two strikes: the first one from the written Bible and the second one from the oral world cultures’ legends. It appears that to trace back man the Y haplogroups to Adam, we would have to funnel it through Noah exclusively, since any other Y chromosome appears to have been debunked.

We will check science in the next article and see if we find strike number three and out.

Matthew 24:39 –and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Lehitraot b’ahavta Yeshua,

Alex and Georgina

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